Interview w/ Emily Schromm – Episode 67: PaleOMG Uncensored Podcast

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Today on the podcast, I’m talking to the incredibly sweet and intelligent Emily Schromm! We are talking all the things including her experience on the Real World, The Challenge, creating her own business, sitting on Mark Cuban’s lap, her love and obsession with supplements, and some very large words she had to break down for me. She’s the best. Check out all her greatness here!

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Episode 67 Transcription!

This is Juli Bauer from PaleOMG and you are listening to PaleOMG Uncensored.

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Juli Bauer: Hey guys! Welcome to another episode of PaleOMG Uncensored. I think we are at episode 67. I never remember to look beforehand. But today is so exciting, because I have the wonderful Emily Schromm on today. Who, it’s hilarious, because she lives in Denver, and we’re doing this over Skype still. We live probably 10 miles apart. Not even that far. And we’re still online recording this.

Emily Schromm: We’re so ridiculous. I love it. {laughs}

Juli Bauer: I know. We’re stupid. But, it’s so much easier to schedule whenever. So thank you so much for being on, and coming on to chat with me. Emily and I ran into each other just a few; like a month ago, probably, at the Whole Foods grand opening. And we see each other kind of randomly at CrossFit events and everything like that. But the last time I had talked to you was in 2012 at the CrossFit regional. I was competing. And I think you were just kind of getting into CrossFit at that point. And you were watching at that CrossFit Regional. And Emily came up to me and introduced herself. And was so friendly. And then we just never really chatted after that until this Whole Foods grand opening. Which, that Whole Foods is beautiful.

Emily Schromm: I’ve been like 5 times a week. It’s ridiculous.

Juli Bauer: I know! And now they have Nom Nom Paleo stuff.

Emily Schromm: And it’s so good!

Juli Bauer: Did you try it? I haven’t been at one that had it yet.

Emily Schromm: I tried it three different days, all amazing. I’ve never had carrots this good. These carrots are sesame roasted, honey glazed, paleo; no canola oil on the whole hot bar. It’s incredible.

Juli Bauer: That’s so badass. And that’s crazy, because they went from using canola oil in everything to straight up Nom Nom Paleo. And I had no idea it was nationwide until I saw your Instagram story.

Emily Schromm: I didn’t either. I saw her post in the blog post on WholeFoods.com and I was just kind of like; oh, that’s really cool. I love her stuff. And then I walked in, and it was so funny. I was in the hot bar line, and this guy was right next to me. And I was like; this is Michelle! This is Michelle! He’s like, you know her? I was like, kind of. I mean, because I feel like I know everybody that’s in the paleo world. And he’s like; this is really good. I was like, do you eat paleo? We had this whole conversation. He’s like; I don’t really eat that much paleo, but I like this. I’m like; yes! This is good.

Juli Bauer: That’s so cool. I went to a different Whole Foods in Wash Park today, and they didn’t have; like, it was breakfast time still, and they had the Nom Nom Paleo sign, but it was regular breakfast burritos out. So I can’t wait to finally hit it when her food is there and actually try some of her stuff. Other than the stuff I’ve made out of her cookbook.

Emily Schromm: Yeah. It’s great.

Juli Bauer: She’s so great.

Emily Schromm: She really is. I hope it lasts. I really hope Whole Foods; they also had a vegan section {laughs}. Which made me a little bit like; {gasp}. Because they’re equally; they’re competing. It’s great that they’re doing these.

Juli Bauer: Yeah.

Emily Schromm: I just want them to keep hers so badly. I hope they do.

Juli Bauer: I know. I hope so. She is so badass.

Emily Schromm: She is.

Juli Bauer: But anyway. We saw each other at this Whole Foods grand opening, and decided we needed to be on each other’s podcasts, and actually start talking. And then I just came on your skin stuff recently. So I’m so glad you’re here today. And so excited to hear your story. Because I feel like I’ve known you through the years, but I really don’t know you. And even when I was at Regional, and you introduced yourself, and my friend was like; do you know who that is? I was like, she looks super familiar but I can’t nail it down. She was like; she was on Real World. I’m like; oh! But I never watched it on a regular basis, and then I never watched any of the challenges. So I don’t know a ton about it.

So will you kind of just recap. I know, Real World is so far past that. But I’d love to hear your story, and how you got on the Real World, and what that experience was like, and what happened after that.

Emily Schromm: Yeah, absolutely. Because it kind of ties in with CrossFit. Because for me, for a while, I did CrossFit. I found CrossFit when I was doing the challenges. So I really loved this same aspect of; it sounds so silly. But the challenges in MTV, it’s very similar to Survivor. So they take people that have done Real World, but now that take kind of anybody that’s game. And they just throw them in a foreign country for 4 to 6 weeks, and you compete to win money.

For me, competing has always been something I’ve loved. And I’ve always been somewhat of an athlete. I played soccer. I say somewhat because I never really understood what that meant until maybe, probably after CrossFit. Like, wow I actually am athletic. I actually can do weird things. And CrossFit really opened that door for me.

But I loved CrossFit, because when it would the timer; 3, 2, 1, go! All I could think about was TJ, who was our host, blowing the horn for any sort of match, or wrestling, or competing that we did in the challenge. So a CrossFit for me became the way I got in shape for the challenges. And then it reversed, where I got good enough at CrossFit that I was like; I think I want to compete in CrossFit, and not do the challenges. {laughs}

So it was kind of an accident that I found CrossFit. Actually my whole life is an accident. I think that’s the theme. It’s all this giant exciting accident. An accident in a way that I would never change it, but it’s all giant oopses.

Juli Bauer: Yeah.

Emily Schromm: So I’m from Missouri. And I went to Mizzou, if you’re familiar with Mizzou. I worked at Starbucks on campus, and I was working at Starbucks when the casting director came in. I didn’t know it at the time, but auditions were happening across the street. Basically across the hallway. For Real World. So I was serving all these people with resumes in their hand, and the most beautiful faces, and outfits. I’m like, why is this happening on Saturday morning on campus? Everyone should be hungover. So I knew there was something going on.

The casting director and I just really hit it off. I remember kind of making fun of the Real World, because I honestly had never watched it. I grew up really religious, and my dad actually blocked MTV. So when the casting director told me he was the casting director, I actually had to apologize. Because I think I had made fun of it so much.

Juli Bauer: {laughs}

Emily Schromm: He was fine with it, but to me I was like; I can’t believe I just dissed your whole job. So it was just a really fun accident of getting to know this guy. Then it turned into an audition. Which turned into me being picked for a DC cast member. Which is crazy, because I never thought that would happen. But I was so willing to do anything to experience life at that point. I was on the right path to be a veterinarian. I thought that’s what I wanted to be since I was 2 or 3 years old. I love animals. I think they’re just; I’ve always connected with them. And it was just so hard for me to be in college and start to accept to the fact that I didn’t like what I was doing. And I was going to be stuck with it for the rest of my life.

So I was in some really low spots throughout college, with this giant question mark of, what do I do? I’m supposed to be doing this, but everything in me hates it. I’m just going through the motions. So at that point, I was just so willing to say yes to everything. I was saying yes to random trips, and road trips, and camping. And then this guy; he was just another yes. It was like; I need to experience life. I’m 19. When am I ever going to get another chance to get a free trip somewhere. So I just took advantage of it.

It turned into just; in my opinion, when I was there, I remember being there, filming, the whole time thinking; “I am just here for entertainment.” And that bothered me. It was hard for me to accept. I was very guarded, because I felt like it’s MTV. There’s only so open I can be. Because it’s hard for me to; I don’t know. I didn’t know how to explain it. I’m just kind of a tool in this weird chess game.

And then afterwards, I was always really surprised by how much it helped me grow. It was this beautiful experience of learning about myself, learning about how I interacted with people that I never would be around. It made me grow. It made me also learn to never settle. So as soon as I moved back to Missouri, I tried to finish my semester, and then I moved to Colorado to the Starbucks in Keystone, Colorado.

And that’s kind of how my journey to Colorado began. To fitness began. I hated the way I looked on TV, which is why I got into the gym, and got into a structure. And then also found, with my skin issues that we talked about in the body awareness project, that I’m so glad you’re a part of. I really, really wanted to fix my skin. That was my biggest issue. I had a lot of dark moments watching my skin be pretty terrible on TV, and then have to hear about it on Twitter with people that did not like me. So skin issues have always been something a part of my life, which is how I turned into a nutritionist, ultimately, with paleo. With cutting dairy, with cutting sugar, and gluten, and finding out what worked for my body so I could really heal it from the inside out. So that’s kind of the long version.

Juli Bauer: Yeah. Well, it’s not the long version, because obviously you’ve had a million different places in between. But what was that experience like, being on Real World, and then watching it back? You experiencing yourself, and then watching it back of however producers cut it. And how people envisioned you, when you’re like; that’s not who I am. Maybe. I’m just saying whatever your experience was like. What was that like, going through that, as a young person. Still coming into your own, straight out of college. You’re still so mushy. You’re still trying to find your own confidence and your own true personality. What was that like?

Emily Schromm: Ugh. It was hard. I honestly didn’t do it. I watched one episode, and the self-hate that I felt; it was too much.

Juli Bauer: That was about your skin and your body, or how you were portrayed?

Emily Schromm: Never about how I was portrayed. That’s what I was always; everyone asks me that. Do they create drama, did they edit you to be different than you are? And they never did. I was always so impressed with the editing, how realistic it was.

Juli Bauer: That’s cool.

Emily Schromm: They might have shown the worst moments of somebody, and that balanced it out with some of their positivity. But if those moments; they were still you. They were still and expression of yourself. Whether you were really frustrated or angry. Everything about the edit was accurate. And I know that some people will argue with that. But it’s probably because they did things. They didn’t feel like they were represented well because the other side wasn’t represented. So from my opinion, nothing was edited in a way that made me uncomfortable or frustrated.

The only thing that bothered me was that in my head, myself and who I was didn’t match with what I saw. In my head, whether I have to put on this coat of confidence because I’m doing this, and I’m scared sh*tless. It was not an easy thing for me to do. But I’m going to go into this big city, DC, and learn things and meet people and just do it. So I almost have this shield of I have to be brave and make this happen. So in my head, that’s who I was.

But then when I saw it on TV, and I just; we’re all our own worst critics. It was just feeling like what I felt, this proud person, wasn’t the person that I watched. And that was hard. And I know now, looking back, I suffer. If I do not eat the way I eat, I have chronic IBS. I have horrible stomach issues. Even in DC, I remember being in such pain with my stomach; whether that was stress or food induced. And then my skin, because gut and skin are so connected. My skin was always bed, even since I was 6 or 7. I started getting breakouts; and then on birth control when I was 13. So the acne was always a big one, and I didn’t know what to do with it. Because I didn’t know the root cause.

So that was a huge issue. And then I also just physically; being an athlete, and then seeing how I was, and not looking what I looked like in my head really bothered me. I never was obese or overweight. And I never want to say that I looked horrible. Because I didn’t. Everyone would be like; Em, you looked great. My mom would be like; you look beautiful. But to me, I knew that it wasn’t the best I could be. So really changing that perspective had to happen; not from changing physically how I looked, but changing the chemistry and the internal piece. The gut health, the adrenals, and ultimately my brain health, to feel like I matched what I saw on TV. If that makes sense.

Juli Bauer: Totally. I’ve been through that. And I’m sure a ton of people have connected with that at some point. Even a person who is pregnant. You know, they’re like, not connected what you’re maybe seeing in the mirror with how you’re feeling inside. It’s like having that kind of out of body experience where you’re looking and it’s just not matching up to how you’re feeling. I think so many people have been through that.

So what brought you to Keystone? How did you end up there?

Emily Schromm: {laughs} This is so random. So, I’m on this yes pathway. Like, yes, yes, yes, I’ll go skydiving. I’m going to go see the ocean for the first time. I mean, Juli, I had never even been on a plane before I was 20. So seeing the ocean. Going to another country. All of it was like this whole new world. So I went to DC. One of the roommates, Mikey, he was from Colorado. And he was like; you’ve never been to Colorado? I’m like, well I did on this road trip with my mom when I was little. He was like, no, have you snowboarded? I was like, no, I want to so bad. So I came to visit as soon as the episodes were done filming.

I remember being on the mountain with a little too much tequila, just like; this is amazing! I knew at that moment. I told him; I said, I’m going to find a job here next year. I have to get better at this. Because I was terrible. I broke a wrist. I was really bad. {laughs}

Juli Bauer: Oh my god! {laughs}

Emily Schromm: And so from that moment, I went and did the semester, the spring semester at Mizzou, and it just kind of solidified that this is not for you, Em. It was hard, going back to college. Missouri; I love Missouri. I love the people there. But people would come to Starbucks and just kind of watch me, like expect me to do tricks or something, you know? I had just been on the show. And I am processing the show, but people are expecting some amazingness out of me. And I’m just like; I’m just myself. I don’t have tricks. I make coffee. I really just, I couldn’t handle it. So it was really good for me.

I googled jobs on the mountain, and Starbucks was hiring at Keystone. And they hired me the next day. So I was like; ok, mom. I’m doing this. I’m packing my car and I’m moving to Keystone. So I lived there for a year. And it was just the best decision of my life. I’m really grateful. It’s not the lifestyle for me to live as a ski bum. I love it, but it’s the same thing as small towns. It’s hard to find things to do. It’s hard to get in a groove of a healthy lifestyle. Because people drink, people smoke. It’s just more of a party thing.

So it wasn’t much different than my college town. But that’s where I ultimately; I was so desperate to search for this happy place. I thought I could find it by moving to Colorado and being on the mountain. Which seemed so glamourous, and it was incredible. But the happiness really didn’t happen until I connected to myself, when I got into the gym. And that’s when I really was like; wow. This is what I love to do. I love who I am. I love what I’m capable of. And I need to share this with other people.

After that winter in Keystone, I moved to Denver to become a personal trainer. And that’s kind of when I knew that this is what I want to do for the rest of my life.

Juli Bauer: And so, when did you start CrossFit again?

Emily Schromm: So, I had been in Denver as a personal trainer. Well, it took a while for me to be a personal trainer. Some people who might know this; I don’t tell this to a lot of people, but in Stapleton, there’s a place called U-Shampooch. {laughs}

Juli Bauer: Yeah.

Emily Schromm: To wash your dogs. So in order to be a trainer, I had to work at the front desk at U-Shampooch for a long time.

Juli Bauer: {laughs}

Emily Schromm: In order to get my certification. And then I became a trainer for about 6 months of fully training clients when I found CrossFit. So there was some dabbling. I remember washing dogs, and hearing about CrossFit. And being like; I have to do this, but I had to be a personal trainer at the Global Gym, and they don’t want me to coach at a CrossFit gym. So I would sneak in in-between hours, and come to work all bloody with my callouses bleeding. They’re like; where have you been? I’m like, nowhere! {laughs}

So I found CrossFit probably about a year and a half after being in Denver. And it’s right when I met you. So that’s when I first saw that; I think that’s when; you said 2013 right?

Juli Bauer: That was 2012.

Emily Schromm: 2012. So yeah, that makes sense. So around then, your competition was the first one I ever watched.

Juli Bauer: Wow.

Emily Schromm: I remember just being like; I have to make regionals. This is what I’m supposed to do. This is what I’m going to train for. So watching you guys was just such a huge piece of me getting into CrossFit a little bit more seriously. And also, it was just good because I didn’t have really a life plan. And it just kept me; it was structure. It was a class. It was people that supported me being strong and ridiculously jacked. Where as in the Global Gym, everyone just cared about being in a bikini. And I couldn’t match that up with my beliefs. So it was so cool to compete at this; just a daily level with friends that supported you. It was so good for me to find when I found it.

Juli Bauer: That’s 100% my story. I was the exact same way. I went to a sectionals competition, so before it had turned into regionals, they had sectionals. Then regionals, or something like that. And I saw all these women. And all these women just competing for the same goal. And they’re all shapes and sizes. And it wasn’t this bikini contest. And I’m like; this is where I want to be. This is where I should be. And that was my changing moment, too. And it’s amazing, this community of people you find that support you and your goals and pushing harder. And trying more. And doing more. It’s the best community to be in. So hearing that exact same story, I totally get it.

So how many years did you compete for?

Emily Schromm: You know, I just stopped last year. So the last competition I did was August 2017. And I did the Wyoming open. And that was kind of my last pro competition. And I did well. I enjoyed it. There’s this girl, April, who owns CrossFit 720 who is like my best friend. She’s so strong; she’s so ridiculous. And I remember being like; if I can beat her, I’m happy. And I did; and she was like, what are you doing? And I was like, ok I think I’m good. I don’t want to compete anymore. {laughs}

So I think, for me, it’s just; and this is the question that I really did want to address. I saw it on your Instagram. There is such a big thing for me, where I have to be successful in everything I do. In my mind, I am so crazy wired. I can’t be content with average. And I think a lot of us who have crossfitted, or have businesses, we all feel that way. We strive for perfection.

But what I was doing is trying to compete, trying to be; never at an elite level, but at least be able to kind of hang with the girls in our region and do well in some pro competitions. I was trying to hang onto that, but also launch my businesses, and be a good girlfriend, and be a good human. And I could not balance it all.

All of that juggling, I tried for many, many years. I just crashed and burned. And there was one very specific crash and burn, but then it would be like; ok, I feel better. I feel good. I’m conquering my emails. I’m crushing my workouts. I might be sucking at one piece of my job, but at least I’ve got this. I just felt like I was constantly exhausted. I was always juggling. And I just couldn’t do it anymore. And it was just, to the point of; why am I competing in CrossFit? I couldn’t answer that question.

So I was like; you know, I wonder what it would feel like for my body to not have that much of a stress. Because CrossFit is amazing, but it is such a stress. There is no in between. Unless you have really great coaches, which definitely do exist.

Juli Bauer: But they’re hard to come by.

Emily Schromm: They really are. And I get frustrated, because it’s this paradigm of a trainer. Where you want to push your client to be the best version of themselves possible. So you want to show them that they can do more. They can push it. They can pass that barrier that they think they have. And reach their full potential. But then there’s the opposite side of it; if you’re doing that, but this person is maybe struggling in this workout because of their job, financial stress.

Maybe they have some internal; I get really nerdy with this nutritional therapy stuff. But maybe they have some blood sugar issues. Or maybe they have some macro imbalances. They’re not eating appropriately for the workout today. It’s going to drive them through the wall in a way that’s really hard to come out of unless you have that conversation with your coach. You have to know that there’s times where you have to push, and the times you have to pull back.

I guess my big takeaway, because I know this is important for people. It’s like, when you are high stress and you have a ton on your plate. You know, the whole listening to your body thing; it’s not a fad. It’s legit what you have to do. And the way that I listen to my body; I know I can’t do a CrossFit workout if I have SI pain really terribly, or some hip issues that start to flare up only when my adrenals are in stress.

Also, I talked about it a little bit in my Instagram, but my glutes don’t fire. So you know how you can do all the glute bridges in the world but when you squat, all you feel is your quads? Sometimes that’s an adrenal issue. And those are a little bit more of abstract ways to tell. But some other ways to tell are if you have a headache after you workout, or if you take a long time to recover. Whether it’s 4 hours or 2 days. Some people just take two days to feel like they’re recovering. And that’s not normal.

So really looking at your energy when you wake up. Do you have to have caffeine? Do you fall asleep easily, or do you have your mind racing at night? All of those are signs of where our cortisol is. And I know that where my stress is with my job and what I’m doing, I cannot right now combine CrossFit. Or at least high intense CrossFit, with what’s on my plate.

So I do Olympic lifting. I do strength training. And I do Metcons that I try really hard to never get in that dark place in your head. You know, the competing place. Which is so hard.

Juli Bauer: Where we strive to be all the time in CrossFit.

Emily Schromm: Right! {laughs}

Juli Bauer: You feel like; I think when you’re competing at that level, you get to that point where you felt like you didn’t have a good workout if you didn’t get to that place on a daily basis or multiple times per week. And changing that viewpoint of; I don’t have to feel like I’m physically going to melt into the floor after a workout. I can feel heavy breathing, take a couple of minutes, breathe it out, drink some water, and I can go on my way. That’s a totally ok place to be. And it’s hard for crossfitters, especially competitive crossfitters, or people who want to be at the CrossFit competitive level, to get to that point of understanding that your body is not supposed to go through that all the time.

Emily Schromm: It’s like, literally sprinting all the time. You know? And I think that’s so; caffeine and kilos, as much as I think they’re a fun brand, there’s a reason that there’s so much caffeine in the CrossFit world. We’re so depleted and exhausted. And if we don’t have coffee, how do we get through our day? So I do think the first step is, if you don’t have any coffee or any preworkout, how does your energy feel? Not the caffeine piece. But literally, do you feel like you can be who you are? That was the eye opener for me. When I did some cortisol testing, and DHEA testing. I was like; oh my god, I want to die. I thought I was fine, and now you take out caffeine. And I feel like I’m just; you know. I literally wanted to sleep all day. It was a pretty dark place.

Juli Bauer: Whoa. Yeah.

Emily Schromm: So that’s a good test, I think. Just an initial test of where somebody. Their adrenals might be. Where they feel they can be without coffee.

Juli Bauer: Yeah. I feel like a lot of times I want to take out coffee. I’m not even a person who drinks a full cup of coffee. I just like the routine in the morning, because I’m a big routine person and I like having my coffee as I sit and type up the rest of my blog post for the day. But I’ve been noticing more and more. And seriously, I don’t even finish a full cup of coffee. But I get extremely sweaty, and I get high anxiety, and my heart rate starts to flutter. And I’m like; ok, I don’t like feeling like this. Because I just don’t eat first thing in the morning. I get my work done, and then I eat a little bit later.

So I’ve been thinking lately; I’m like, ok. I think I need to change it up a little bit. Because I’ve never had that before. And it’s time to listen to my body, and what it’s telling me. It’s just not fun to listen to always. Because we love our morning routine.

Emily Schromm: I agree. Because coffee is good. It’s interesting; Alex Swanson, he created nutrition genome. So I did a podcast with him. Basically it’s like 23andMe. Genetic testing. But the way they change their genetic testing; they don’t test for the cool stuff anymore. So this guy started doing it on his own. And different people, genetically, metabolize caffeine differently. Which is so cool. Because it’s like; of course coffee makes you anxious. And you can see it with your actual genes.

Juli Bauer: Interesting.

Emily Schromm: There’s just some really fun stuff you can get into. And also; I don’t know. I just have to; my biggest thing is if I cut coffee completely, I was going to be just; I mean, I worked at Starbucks for four years. {laughs} So I have to have espresso, I have to have some sort of coffee. So I do love for people, I always think; if you are cutting back, cordyceps, whether it’s Four Sigmatic or some sort of cordyceps blends, mushroom coffees are great. I created this herbal coffee; which if you want to try it, I would love to send it to you. Because I think it’s very rooty. Do you take your coffee black?

Juli Bauer: No. I’m a heavy cream and sugar person. I like to enjoy my coffee. {laughs}

Emily Schromm: Good. Well I’m going to give this to you. Let me know what you think. I would like to know how you prepare it. But there are alternatives. Because if I didn’t have these alternatives; it’s how I got so into teas. Which I thought teas were a joke; I was an espresso girl. Black 6-shot expresso Americanos.

Juli Bauer: Oh my god. {laughs}

Emily Schromm: I’m crazy.

Juli Bauer: I would sh*t my brains out. {laughing} There’s no way. There’s no way I could handle that. That is insane.

Emily Schromm: That was just the morning routine.

Juli Bauer: I’m sweating thinking about that. That’s insane. Oh my god.

Emily Schromm: Yeah. For me to not have coffee, it just wasn’t. It was miserable. It was death, I swear. I cried for the first week of no coffee. So I said, f*ck this. My life is about; you can put yourself through all of these protocols and be miserable. How is that going to make you any better. Ultimately, it’s what helps you bring down stress. And it was stressing me out cutting coffee. So, that’s how I got into teas and herbal coffees and mushrooms.

And I do want to say for anybody that’s like “F-this. I love coffee.” If I can do it, at least try to be open minded about it. {laughs}

Juli Bauer: Yeah. Damn. That is a sh*t ton of coffee.

Emily Schromm: I’m not kidding. Not good.

Juli Bauer: {laughs} Well, let’s talk a little bit about your businesses. Because you’re working all the time. So what do you do for a living now? Because you did, how many challenges did you do? I know that’s not your career. But how many challenges did you do, other than just being on the Real World?

Emily Schromm: So I did the Real World in 2009. And then I did three challenges pretty back to back. My last one was in 2013. So, it was after I had kind of gotten into CrossFit. Which is super fun because the last one I did, I won. So it was so fun to be like; I could feel the difference. The confidence, the ability level. I knew I was like; I’m going to go and win, and then I’ll be done.

So, I finished the last one in 2013. But then I did a charity spin off with MTV recently, so that just ended airing. Which was amazing, because I got to pick a charity. So I picked Girls Incorporated, and I ended up winning $50,000 for their charity here in Denver.

Juli Bauer: That’s awesome.

Emily Schromm: It was just so incredible to be able to do something that was bigger than I. I needed to do it.

Juli Bauer: When you’re on the Real World, or on these challenges. I know challenges, you win money if you win, correct?

Emily Schromm: Mm-hmm.

Juli Bauer: Do you get paid for being on the Real World? Or was it like, you’re in college, you don’t’ give a sh*t. You get to live somewhere for free.

Emily Schromm: Yeah. They basically give you; for Real World, it’s like $100 a week for groceries.

Juli Bauer: Damn!

Emily Schromm: I know! We lived in DC. Which is not a cheap city.

Juli Bauer: No.

Emily Schromm: And it was just; all of us were like, seriously? This is all we get? So for me, the challenges are a little bit more; if you make the final, or if you get first, second, or third place you usually win some sort of compensation. So that was amazing for me, because I had gotten. It was small amounts, but I got third place twice, and then got a win on the final one.

Juli Bauer: That’s awesome.

Emily Schromm: So I was able to pay off all my school debt. I was able to just kind of start from scratch. Move to Colorado. I mean, it was just really incredible to be able to have that clean slate, which I know I got really lucky with. And then when I won, I just really put everything I could into the business. Because I created my main business has always been, and that’s changing a little bit. But this 21-day EmFit Challenge. Which was originally the Superhero challenge. And it’s just this program that I actually created when I was filming for the final challenge that I did. Because I had just built my business.

When you’re a trainer, all you want is to make your calendar full because that means you’re getting paid. I had built this whole clientele base, and had gym space, and finally was on my own, building my business. And it was just such a good feeling. And I knew that I had to do this challenge. I didn’t have to, but my gut was like, you need to do this.

So I disappeared for 6 weeks, and I didn’t’ have any connection with them. You know, you go to Thailand, and you can’t have email or phone.

Juli Bauer: Oh wow.

Emily Schromm: No contact with anybody. I mean, you get one phone call a week, but you’re calling your mom, just like, what am I doing? {laughs} You know. So for me, I created this online $500 website where I had my clients log points, so that when I came back they had some sort of accountability system. And then that’s what turned into the 21-day challenge. Because it was really successful. They liked the idea of checking points, and just getting a daily piece of information added to it. Because I think that’s so important for people to learn about their body.

So I put basically most of what I earned back into the business and just started growing Unleash Fitness, which was my first company at that time through that channel. Which was incredible. The timing was perfect, and I feel really blessed to have that platform to be able to launch that initial training program that I do.

Juli Bauer: Yeah. So you have your training program. And then you have your EmPack? Can you talk a little bit about that?

Emily Schromm: I would love to. I started it kind of accidentally. Again, I was watching the CrossFit games. I want to say 2015. Yeah, I think it was 2015, which is crazy how long ago it was. When I realized that there’s nothing for travel and working out that works well. Because sandbags, I love sandbags, but they aren’t portable. And I was at a hotel with no dumbbells. So I just took a suitcase, and I stuffed it with everything I could, and I started doing a bear complex. I remember ripping my hands. It was uncomfortable, but it was the lightbulb moment where I was like; what could I do that would be portable but also comfortable. Sandbag, but with water.

So I created the EmPack. And I had no idea what I was doing. But it was really wonderful to be able to launch. Kickstarter is such a great platform for people that have this idea but have no funds and don’t want to get investors. That was wonderful to be able to launch on Kickstarter in January of 2016. And then it’s just fun. It’s so cool to be able to have a product. I’m so used to selling myself, and my strength programs, and my training. It’s too much. Sometimes it’s exhausting to have to; it feels like you’re selling your soul sometimes, you know?

Juli Bauer: Yeah. Yeah.

Emily Schromm: You’re constantly comparing. Especially as this industry gets more saturated. It’s like; oh that person posted this. Maybe I should post this. And I hate it. I try to get out of that cycle as much as I can. And just, I know I have a great product and a great program. But to have an actual physical tangible product is a really great way for me to just express the things I love. Strength training and travel and adventure. But without having to talk about it. You know what I mean? It’s been really cool. So I’ve really loved that piece of the companies that I’ve run. To be able to see it from this different side. And hopefully be on Shark Tank soon. And all that fun jazz.

Juli Bauer: Are you serious? Oh my god, I love Shark Tank. I feel like I watch Shark Tank every single day. It’s always on.

Emily Schromm: It’s always on. And do you have a favorite shark?

Juli Bauer: Probably Barbara. Did you ever listen to her on How I Built This?

Emily Schromm: No.

Juli Bauer: Have you ever listened to that podcast?

Emily Schromm: Yes, I have! She was on that?

Juli Bauer: Yes. And she’s just like; she’s just such a f*cking badass. And she’s hilarious, and so easy to listen to. And doesn’t give a sh*t. She is doing her. She is so cool.

Emily Schromm: {laughs} I love; I’m going to listen to that today.

Juli Bauer: Listen to that one. I think it’s pretty early on in that podcast. But who is your favorite? I mean, Mark Cuban is always great too. Because he just doesn’t give a sh*t either. He was on How I Built This, too.

Emily Schromm: Yes. And I love Mark Cuban. I mean, I had this quick claim to fame. I can’t believe I’m going to say this.

Juli Bauer: {laughs}

Emily Schromm: But we were at this New York bar, and I ran into him. It was 2013. And I think Shark Tank had just came out. And I was like; I just want to let you know that I’m going to be on Shark Tank. And he’s like; ok. Cool. Don’t tell me the idea. I’ll see you there. And then I ended up getting in a cab with him, and sitting on his lap because there was no room.

Juli Bauer: What?! {laughs}

Emily Schromm: It was such a; and he was such a gentleman. Just really respectful. I literally was like, this is not happening. This is my life right now. So Mark Cuban is awesome.

Juli Bauer: What?

Emily Schromm: I know! Isn’t that the craziest, weird thing? I couldn’t even believe it happened. I love Mark Cuban. He came to Denver recently, did you see that?

Juli Bauer: No.

Emily Schromm: For Denver Startup Week. Hopefully he comes again this year. He did this huge talk at the Bellco Theater. He’s just the best. So he’s definitely my favorite.

Juli Bauer: Oh. Well I hope I get to see you on Shark Tank. That would be so freaking rad!

Emily Schromm: I know.

Juli Bauer: Did you see what’s his face; the Paleo Nick guy on it?

Emily Schromm: No. I’ve seen a couple of great paleo brands. But I don’t know Paleo Nick. Which one is he?

Juli Bauer: Oh, I forget. He has like a meal delivery service. He’s like, out of California.

Emily Schromm: Yep. I did see that that, then. But he didn’t get a deal.

Juli Bauer: No. They didn’t seem to vibe with him.

Emily Schromm: No, I think he came in a little too hot, you know.

Juli Bauer: Too hot. Too CrossFit-y.

Emily Schromm: Yes!

Juli Bauer: Too CrossFit-y there. Just like going full speed, blowing his full wad at the beginning. Come on man.

Emily Schromm: {laughs} There was another; there’s a bar company. Wasn’t there a bar company that made it there?

Juli Bauer: I don’t know.

Emily Schromm: Some sort of paleo bar. But I don’t think that went very well. And then there was the hands. Do you remember those hand grips that people have?

Juli Bauer: Oh yes. Yeah.

Emily Schromm: Natural grips or something. I saw them on there, as well.

Juli Bauer: Well sweet. I hope I get to watch you!

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Juli Bauer: So what does your day to day schedule look like? I know it’s obviously totally different and then you get to create your own schedule when you work for yourself, which is always fabulous. But what does an average day look like? What are you working on? What are you; are you making sure you fit your workout in at a certain time? What’s it look like?

Emily Schromm: I’m glad you; so my day to day is very random. So workouts are always best if I try to actually schedule them in as a client, or as a meeting. I do best working out around 11 to 2. I am kind of getting a little bit into Ayurvedic medicine and doshas, and I’m a total Pitta.

Juli Bauer: {laughs} You just said; you literally said three words in a row that I have no idea what they are. {laughs}

Emily Schromm: {laughing} Ok.

Juli Bauer: A dosha, a Pitta. Can we rewind?

Emily Schromm: Yes. Eastern Ayurvedic medication, which is similar; Chinese medicine actually branched from Ayurvedic. So it’s just ancient medicinal practice.

Juli Bauer: Ok.

Emily Schromm: It’s kind of fascinating. And this is fun, because I actually talk about it in the Body Awareness Project.

Juli Bauer: Oh, cool.

Emily Schromm: With the person before you. So the Doshas are three different characters of people. It’s kind of like your zodiac, but not quite as concrete. Because some days might be different, and some people have a mix of two. But there’s Vada, Pitta, and Kafa. And Pitta is just; I think you’re also Pitta. We’re just kind of fiery. We’re just more athletic build. Because it’s actually your shape, too, that ties into it. Athletic builds, and we tend to be a little bit hot, but clammy. {laughs} Just …

Juli Bauer: Oh yeah. So clammy, all the time.

Emily Schromm: So clammy. So we’re kind of moist, but also…

Juli Bauer: {laughs} Kind of moist.

Emily Schromm: It’s a gross word. {laughs}

Juli Bauer: Always moist. That’s me over here.

Emily Schromm: You can find out your dosha. You can Google free dosha test and take these little quick tests that say what your mix is. Anyway, Pitta is just a way that says; this is somewhat of your tendency and this is what you should avoid and this is what you should do.

And I don’t follow it to a T. Because I would be so miserable. Because they’re really peaceful practices, and I would never get anything done. So it’s like; take two hours to wake up. Oil pull in the morning. Which I know we talked about {laughs}.

Juli Bauer: Yes.

Emily Schromm: And it’s not realistic. So what I do is kind of take some of it, and what they say is my biggest meal should be around 11 to 2. Because if I eat too soon, or too much after. And I really do feel this. I feel so full. And it’s not a stomach acid thing. I just do better when I work out and when I eat from 11 to 2. That’s kind of my prime time. So I always make sure that happens.

A lot of times; like tonight, that’s not going to happen. I’ll get a late night workout. Which I actually love. I really love really late, 8-9, 9-10 p.m. workouts at the gym. Which isn’t always best for sleep. But it’s quieter and it’s total meathead sessions. Those are my favorites.

But anyway. The other things that I have going on. I do have a tea company that I just launched. So the herbal coffee that I’ll send you. That, plus the podcast. And this Body Awareness Project that I’m launching on skin makes my schedule a little bit all over. So what I try to do is I have a ton of lists. I list out everything that I need to be done and cross of what I need. And there’s times where I’m like; yep, that’s not priority. We’re going to do that tomorrow. And then it becomes two days and three days. But for the most part, it’s really just interviews with people. It’s organizing my life and promotion for EmPack. Newsletters for Emily Schromm. Sometimes videos for filming if I need more workouts for the challenges.

I work with 9 news, which has been really fun. Like, this morning I got to do my first interview with Girl Inc., and be the interviewer. Which was really cool. So just trying; I say yes to probably too much. And I make sure I get a workout in. Then I just make sure I eat. That’s my biggest issue. I forget to eat sometimes.

Juli Bauer: Yeah. It’s hard. It’s hard fitting it in. I recorded a podcast right before yours for someone else’s, and then I’m like; what the f*ck am I going to eat? I didn’t plan ahead and I’m trying to make something in the pan super fast, and chowing down on it as quick as I can. Which I know is not good for my body, either. But it’s hard fitting meals in. And you have to plan ahead. Do you do much meal prep? I’ve seen you meal prep before on your Instagram stories.

Emily Schromm: Yeah, I go through phases. Because honestly, I just get sick of the meals that I’m prepping. {laughs} So I always do have some sort of ground turkey or ground beef that’s always the backup plan. Because it’s so easy to just throw in a skillet and make a ton of salad and veggies and roast them. Or do whatever I want with them.

The meal prep, it really depends. I’m leaving town, so I’m not meal prepping this week, but when I come back, I’ll try to make at least; boiled eggs are kind of my go-to always. I think the hardest thing is veggies. I really just; I like those. They’re not good for the environment. But those tubs. I have to have those tubs. I don’t eat veggies unless they’re precut or premade. It’s like; I just don’t do it. I wish I could, but if I’m busy, it’s either green powders or juice or just those precut prewashed veggies that I’ve got in my fridge. Which is not great. But I need your help with some veggie prep.

Juli Bauer: I’m always a; I have almost every meal arugula because it’s just a green I like. And it’s so easy to eat. It tastes good by itself. It tastes good with dressing. It tastes good with other things. So I eat arugula with everything just to get an extra green in. Like today I just had some chicken with bacon and peppers. And then I threw in arugula just to call it a meal and have a green vegetable in there. That’s my go-to.

Emily Schromm: Arugula also stays fresh longer than any of the other vegetables, I feel like.

Juli Bauer: Yes!

Emily Schromm: So that’s so great. I’m with you. Arugula is my go-to. I tried to grow it in Denver, but it’s way too sunny. It’s so spicy; I couldn’t even believe how spicy arugula can get. It’s almost like a hot pepper.

Juli Bauer: Yes! It’s crazy! I had actually fresh arugula. I was in Scottsdale, and I went to one of those farms where they grow all the food in those tubes. I forget what kind of farms they are. But they grow the most fresh, amazing vegetables in these crazy tube things. I should know what it’s called because I wrote about this amazing company. {laughs} But I tasted the arugula, and my mouth was burning.

Emily Schromm: Yes!

Juli Bauer: I was like, what is this? It doesn’t taste anything like the arugula you get in the store. It’s insane.

Emily Schromm: Isn’t it crazy? And it’s just a little too much sun. So shaded spots are awesome. But for me, I was so excited about arugula, because I really love arugula, and it was just inedible.

Juli Bauer: Too much. Damn.

Emily Schromm: Way too much Denver sun. Yeah.

Juli Bauer: Weird. So crazy. It’s so weird how it can taste different depending on the area. Every bag tastes different. So before we get into some reader questions, the last question I wanted to ask you about. Because I talk about this a lot on my podcast. And really, just accepting who you are and improving yourself. And I feel like social media makes that incredibly challenging.

So you being in the public eye, and posting photos. You in workout clothes, and your tight clothing. Do you find yourself looking on social media, or dissecting yourself ever on social media? And how have you dealt with that body image since you’ve been in the public eye since you were 19 and dealing with people’s feedback and talking about you in different ways and trolling in other ways? How have you really come to your own to become a confident woman who doesn’t compare yourself? Which I’m sure you do, at times, because we all do. It’s human nature. But how have you done that to kind of tell that to other women who maybe dealing with that more right now?

Emily Schromm: That’s a good question. I’m burning some Palo Santo, by the way. It’s not a joint. I just wanted to let you know {laughs} just in case you saw some smoke come up.

Juli Bauer: You can get high on this podcast. You can do whatever you want.

Emily Schromm: {laughs}

Juli Bauer: Just smoking cigarettes over there.

Emily Schromm: It’s so; that’s a heavy question. I’m going to go on just a rant that just popped in my head. Because I think this is helpful for me. Because obviously we all are a work in progress. We’re all finding our body. Getting comfortable with our body. There’s going to be days we love our body. And then the next day you’re going to hate your body.

It’s just like workouts. I feel like with CrossFit, especially. You crush a workout, and you feel so good. And then the next day it’s like; I couldn’t be worse at this sport. What am I doing. So it’s so true, it’s just accepting that that’s going to happen. You’re going to have days where you feel on fire. And social media is on point, and it’s just coming out of you, and people are responding to you. And then there’s days where it’s just not quite there.

So I think the biggest takeaway that I’ve learned is not to look at social media as a way to pull me out of the darkness. And it’s kind of tough to say, or it’s tough to explain except the work that needs to be done in our own journey has to be done inside. So a lot of times when we’re looking for external validation, or maybe we don’t love the way we look but we need that little upper. We tend to just post something that might give us that upper. We need somebody to tell us that we’re actually on track and we’re doing well. When we shouldn’t need somebody else. We can do that ourselves. And then I think posting outside of that place, anything goes.

Because what tends to happen is we’ll post when we’re just not in a happy spot ourselves. So I try to tell people; as much as I do think it’s important to post, and engage, when you start to see social media become a stress for you or you just become exhausted. Maybe you turn off your phone. I catch myself doing this a lot. My thumb has its own little brain.

Juli Bauer: Yes.

Emily Schromm: It’s like; how did I do that.

Juli Bauer: It just automatically goes to something.

Emily Schromm: How did I do this? I was just talking to somebody and now I’m looking on Instagram. It’s like, not even natural. But it has become natural. So I think when I find myself feeling down about myself, and I tend to look for posts for inspiration or I tend to post something to get me out of that place, it never works. So I just encourage people; go through what you need to go through. And when you feel amazing, post your nude selfie or whatever you want.

Juli Bauer: {laughs}

Emily Schromm: Do your thing, girl. If it’s coming from a place of; I feel amazing and I feel rock solid and I know I’m worth anything, then post it. More power to you. But if we’re starting to post out of a place of needing something, then it turns into this bad, vicious cycle. And you’re going to always battle that. You’re going to always look for something to make you happier. Whether that’s a new workout program ,or a different macro plan to try to get you the body you want.

Everyone knows the quote, comparison is the thief of joy. Right? So when we compare our journey versus somebody else’s, you’re automatically setting yourself up for failure. And it’s so easy to do with social media. So I think the best thing to do is, if you’re in a darker place and you’re not feeling so great about yourself, don’t go for social media. Maybe take a day off of it. Don’t try to fill that hole and dig into those questions of why do I feel this way?

I always call it the ick. I feel the ick a lot. What is this ick that I feel? This uncomfortableness. I just feel unsettled. And it’s usually an issue with my business. Or an issue with something; maybe I don’t know how to launch this project or this product correctly. Maybe I’m just not quite comfortable with the new challenge videos and I feel like I should redo them because they’re not good enough. It’s always something of me feeling; this is just deeper issues. It’s never just, I look a certain way or I don’t look a certain way. It’s always something else going on.

And I don’t know if that answers your question, but that’s really what I try to do with social media and with comparison. I just try to find the root cause of why I might be feeling icky. And if I’m feeling icky and then get on social media and start comparing, and just picking apart everything on my body that’s imperfect, it’s just a really bad cycle. And I try really hard to not let people get into that. And when I do get into that, I acknowledge it. I don’t beat myself up about it. And I just try to move or do something that makes me feel like me again.

Usually that’s not social media. It’s usually snowboarding. It’s usually going and getting coffee with people. It’s disconnecting and realizing why I’m even doing this in the first place.

Juli Bauer: And I think that’s the biggest thing that I tell people. If I find myself feeling jealous, or angry, or thinking negative thoughts about someone else, it’s my own issue. So I have to remove myself from that situation and go entertain myself some other way. Whether it’s cooking or going to the gym or going out to coffee with a friend. A real person, not just an internet person. You have to take yourself out of that. And I think that’s just a lot of women struggle with that in general. And especially with social media. It’s hard to really distinguish why you’re feeling those feelings and break it down. So I love that. I think that’s wonderful.

Emily Schromm: Yay. Yeah. It’s tough.

Juli Bauer: Let’s get to some listener, or reader questions. Listener. Whatever. Whoever they are, these amazing people on the internet.

Emily Schromm: I hope they’re listening, because we’re going to answer their questions! {laughs}

Juli Bauer: I know, I hope they’re listening, for sure. Well I love this one from Kaitlyn Ballinger. She says, “Emily recently mentioned she is fat adapted but isn’t keto. Can she explain this further? What are both of your opinions on keto versus paleo?” So you can take this one away.

Emily Schromm: For sure. So this is something I address a lot with the EmFit Challenge. For a while I dabbled with keto, but I CrossFit. And I just want to say, if you CrossFit, don’t do keto.

Juli Bauer: Totally.

Emily Schromm: If you’re a woman especially.

Juli Bauer: Oh my god, it f*cked me up, trying to do that.

Emily Schromm: It’s so bad. And there’s a lot of men saying that keto is for everybody, and I just get really pissed off about it. Because it might initially be great. And I think there are women that do do well with really high fat. And I’m talking like 70% of your caloric intake coming from fat. Meaning 10% or less of your caloric intake coming from carbs. So it’s like 30 grams of carbs, at the most, a day. Including vegetables. {laughs}

So for me, it’s really hard to see hormone profile and adrenal profile and say that keto is right for women. It exists, but I have yet to see it exist long-term. So I just think that for me, I know that being fat adapted, it doesn’t mean my body is producing a ton of ketones. Meaning I’m in this fat burning state that everyone knows about, because it’s this ketogenic state. I could test my blood glucose and see the level of ketones on that ketone tester. I could take exogenous ketones, which is a drink. A supplement that is a little bit more trendy and coming out. There’s lots of different brands. You can take those to increase your natural ketones without actually cutting carbs. Which is a kind of fascinating process.

For me, I know I’m fat adapted because all of the issues that happened with a high-carb, low-fat diet no longer happens. I think there’s a misconception that keto is the only way to use fat as fuel. Your body is meant to use fat and carbs as fuel. Especially if you’re a crossfitter. You’re using that glucose in anaerobic exercise. If you do a sprint. If you’re doing FRAN, god forbid. If you’re doing Grace. If you’re doing any of those, your body is pulling from that glucose. So it’s good that your body knows how to use it. Which means you should have some of it there.

And I’ve done keto and CrossFit. And like you said, it just can really mess your body up, because there’s always going to be a backup plan, and that’s adrenals. That’s your cortisol. And then it turns into a hormone issue. And it’s just a big mess.

So for me, with being fat adapted, it means. This is kind of my tell-tell symptoms that I talk to with my clients. Do you have hangriness? Are you basically dying until you eat? A lot of people, they eat food and they feel relieved. You shouldn’t have that reaction. And it’s hard because most people, we live that way. We’re like; ah. Ok, I’m settled. I’m less anxious. That’s usually your body craving something. Craving sugar, craving glucose in order to get it to regulate blood sugar. So that’s a sign of dysglycemia, or blood sugar issues. So we’re not access fat as fuel.

I also see a lot of, if you have this shakiness or headaches if you don’t eat as a really big indicator that you maybe have a little bit too much sugar or carbohydrates, and we can become more fat adapted by making our meals higher fat.

Some other issues really are just; I think the biggest thing with intermittent fasting. It’s great for people. You can eat a high fat coffee, or no food at all in the morning. But if you are starting to feel stressed about it, or you try to work out and you feel like you can’t recover or you’re shaky. Or those adrenal issues that I talked about that tie in with sleep and energy throughout the day. I just don’t think it’s the best for everybody. It’s really about knowing your energy levels. Do I have sustained energy? Could I skip a meal and not really notice a different? Do I have this kind of brain fuel? My brain is on fire all the time?

Which is why I love this high fat diet. Because I need to work a lot, and I also don’t have time to eat a lot. So I eat a fat bomb, and I’m good to go. But it doesn’t mean that I cut carbs to the point of being in ketosis.

Juli Bauer: Ok. I love the answer. I get a lot of questions recently about keto. And I don’t know enough about keto. I know I used to eat super low carb when I was competing, and high fat. And I threw myself into complete adrenal fatigue at some point. And that’s why I had to stop competing, finally. But I love that answer. I think that will give a lot of clarity to a lot of people.

Emily Schromm: Good.

Juli Bauer: Ok let’s do Laura Claire. She asks, “How does she balance reducing/cutting drinking while still maintaining a social life? Any go-to alcohol free cocktails she enjoys while out?” Do you talk about drinking much on anything? I talked a lot about drinking on my podcast. And number one, how people should cut it out and not be drinking on a nightly basis. Even a weekly basis.

People forget, when they’re trying to lose weight or trying to see results, whether it’s the gym or physically or mentally. They’re always forgetting about alcohol. They’ll change their diet and exercise and whatever else, but people always have that glass of wine at night. And it becomes a regular routine.

Have you ever talked about on any of your platforms?

Emily Schromm: Yeah. I love talking about it. So many ways it could go. I think the first thing is it is the biggest road block for people when it comes to weight loss. Especially if they’ve kind of cut a lot of other things. And it’s the one thing they’re holding on to. Which is what happened for me. I was just obsessed with wine. I hate chardonnay now, but I used to drink a lot of chardonnay. When I first moved to Denver, I didn’t know anybody. It was just me and my cat, Gryffindor, hanging out. Drinking bottles of wine every night. And I thought I was healthy because I still cut grains, I cut dairy. But chardonnay was kind of my thing.

So when I cut chardonnay; alcohol changes your protein synthesis. So you could be working out really hard, and then when you drink it could basically postpone protein synthesis. Or delay it. Or actually omit it by a third. So it’s really impressive what it can do for your body. But from a nutrition therapy standpoint, what it does to your liver is even worse. Because your liver is what recycles hormones. It’s what detoxifies you. It’s what regulates blood sugar. And I see so many people with liver issues.

It’s like, we put enough on our skin, and around our body, and in our system. And around our environment, in our air, that our liver is kind of trying to get through. So a lot of people that get hung over really easily. Or they feel really drunk really quickly after a couple of glasses of wine. All of this is sign that your liver is just not optimal, and you’re just making it worse by piling alcohol on it.

There are people that wake up really hot; that’s actually a liver. Your liver can get really hot throughout the night, like 105 degrees. And that’s a sign that it’s working and trying to detox and detox and you’re not giving any help by making alcohol part of the equation.

So for me personally, I really do think I’ll one day start a Mescal company, because I love Mescal. I think it’s so much fun because it’s less; it’s not as much impact as I’ve seen different alcohols. But there is such a balance between; I think it’s maybe one to two nights at the most, if I’m not on some sort of challenge, or some sort of regime. And that’s tough. Because I’m dating Bradford, he’s my boyfriend. And when we first started dating, I was like; how do you date and socialize and not drink? It doesn’t exist. What is this?

So another reason I got into teas. I think teas are fun. People talk about tea. You can converse over it. You can create it. It was hands on for me. It was a good alternative to just pouring a glass of wine and people didn’t look at me like I was crazy. I even do it at restaurants. Three’s a couple of restaurants. Have you been to Urban Farmer yet in Denver?

Juli Bauer: No, I haven’t.

Emily Schromm: It’s amazing, Juli. It’s the best restaurant.

Juli Bauer: Aww, that’s cool. Ok.

Emily Schromm: So even there. It’s hard because I want to get my typical drink, whether it’s red wine or some Mescal. But I know that my sleep is impacted; everything. So right now I’m pretty strict. I just get a cup of tea. And people don’t think you’re crazy. I think if I get soda water, they think I’m more crazy than if I don’t get tea. So that’s my trick. Just get tea. Know the impact of it.

You can get really nerdy about your liver. And I do talk a lot about this in the Body Awareness Project, especially with skin. People with skin issues and their liver, it’s really connected. So I think that’s kind of my take. I don’t know if that’s helpful.

But LaCroix, Mescal, and lime juice are my favorites.

Juli Bauer: OK. Well this kind of ties into that question. This is from; let’s see. Run, Eat, Repeat. I think that’s what it says. “Everyone on the challenge seemed to party hard. Was it really like that, and how does she work in alcohol and dessert in her diet?”

So you’ve kind of talked about that a little bit. But with the challenge, and since I haven’t seen the challenge, I don’t know what it looks like on MTV. But is there a lot of drinking, partying involved. What is your diet like when you’re housed with all these other people, I’m guessing, and your food is totally different than what it is at home.

Emily Schromm: Yeah. So, these people. I don’t know how their bodies function. I mean, they don’t function. It’s hard for me, now, from this standpoint. Because it’s been about four years since we did the full challenge. The last challenge I did, it was nice. We had our own hotel room. We didn’t have to; we weren’t forced to be around each other and roommates with each other. So I didn’t have to be around it as much. If I didn’t want to be around it, I just could walk away.

But the other challenges; these people put their body through a lot. And then they wake up, and they compete. And it’s just crazy to me. I don’t understand it. But I know it’s their choice and I think it’s actually easy to not drink when you see what it does to somebody’s body. For certain people, everything is falling apart. You can see it in their eyes, and their smell. I just want to supplement them so much. {laughs}

So yeah. As far as sugar, I don’t crave sugar. I’m not saying that to be like I am so high and mighty. It’s just, I used to crave sugar all the time. But when you give your body what it needs, you stop craving sugar. So that’s another sign of being fat adapted. Or making sure your insulin levels are stable. If you have insulin resistance, you’re going to crave sugar all the time. If you have a higher carb diet, you’re going to crave sugar all the time.

So finding out the nutritional deficiencies you might have. The vitamins you might need. All of those things can really help with cutting sugar cravings. Because I’m lucky to say that the only time I crave sugar is right before the day of my period or the day before, all I want is a giant chocolate bar. And that’s when I’m like; oh, I’m going to start my period. And it’s like my sign. And that’s it. Throughout the month.

Juli Bauer: What are your favorite sources of fat?

Emily Schromm: The ones I use consistently. And they’re probably not; I guess it’s a little harder when I travel. But tahini is actually a really easy one that I like to add to everything. Whether it’s salad dressings or on eggs and sauerkraut. I love MCT powder. So the one I use is nice to travel with because it is a powder. Although the _______ some sort of explosive. I always get pulled over in the TSA line for that. So blending MCT powder in my coffee is really great.

I don’t do well with even Kerrygold or grass-fed butter, but I do ok with ghee. So brown butter ghee is my favorite.

Juli Bauer: That is so good. Love that stuff.

Emily Schromm: Me too. Especially if I’m craving sugar. Not craving sugar, but like I’m not full. Like, I just, there’s something. I don’t want a meal, but I definitely don’t want. It’s just nice to have a spoonful of brown butter.

Juli Bauer: Have you tried Fourth and Heart ghee?

Emily Schromm: No.

Juli Bauer: I get it at Whole Foods. They have a Himalayan sea salt, but they have other ones. Like vanilla bean. They have truffle. And I use the Himalayan sea salt. And I’ll lick the spoon. And I haven’t really felt that way with other ghees. I really love Tin Star, too. But that Himalayan sea salt, it’s like, I’ll just lick the spoon after I’m putting it in with kale or whatever else. It is so good. You’ll have to try that brand.

Emily Schromm: OK. I will.

Juli Bauer: That kind of leeway’s into this next question. Because you were talking about supplementing for these people who were mucho drunko.

Emily Schromm: {laughs}

Juli Bauer: This one. Gingasnap. Aw, that’s a cute name. “What is Emily’s daily supplement routine?” And I know you’ve been talking about some supplements, haven’t you?

Emily Schromm: Oh god. Juli, I’m a supplement psycho.

Juli Bauer: {laughs}

Emily Schromm: I don’t have a supplement cabinet. I have a supplement closet.

Juli Bauer: Oh my gosh. It’s so funny because I don’t take any supplements. I take collagen in my coffee every morning. And that’s it. Sometimes I’ll take a probiotic. But I’m just really bad about being on top of it. But I don’t take any supplements. And I don’t even know where I would start. Because I don’t even know what to look for. So can you kind of talk about what your routine is, and what people should be looking for when they’re even in the store. Because it’s so overwhelming.

Emily Schromm: It is so overwhelming. I did that Whole Food story, and I was like; wow. I love supplements. I love herbs, and supplements, and flower essences. And I use them all the time. But I know that for; I’m just going to start basic level.

So for you, what I would think would be great for you. D3 is one of my go-to’s. I think everyone could use it. It’s very rare for us to be in the sun from 11 to 2, at the perfect time, at the perfect angle, with less clothes on than we should have to get the right amount of D3. So D3 as far as energy, even lower back pain, depression, bone density, and serotonin production. It’s incredible. So I just think D3 is kind of my baseline, everyone should have it.

If you’re cutting a lot of grains, and a lot of sugar. And this was the first time I experienced nutritional therapy in my own way, and got fascinated by it, is when I first went paleo. Probably soon after or right before meeting you in 2012. I cut all grains, all sugar, everything. And I started craving chocolate for the first time in my life. Not just slight chocolate. {laughs} Not just period chocolate. It was like; I have to have chocolate all the time.

Juli Bauer: My husband went through that too, and he never craved chocolate before.

Emily Schromm: Yeah, it was crazy. And I was like; ok, what is this connection. So this is when I started trying to figure out, if I crave something what does it mean. So magnesium and chromium are in cacao. So of course in my mind I’m thinking just milk chocolate. But if I could create a cacao drink with just almond milk, cacao, some honey and cinnamon, my chocolate craving would be gone for a week.

So I started saying; ok, what’s in cacao that I’m missing? And it was magnesium and chromium. I do think magnesium is something that many, many people need. So I take it at night. I think it’s a relaxer. You shouldn’t take it in the morning. Some people need more than others. If you have loose stools after you take it then you took too much or a wrong kind. Because there’s a lot of kinds that are more laxative. And that’s not the kind we want.

Juli Bauer: Do you do Nature’s Calm magnesium? Or do you do just a normal pill?

Emily Schromm: I like the capsules because they tend to glycinate or taurine. They tend to not be just the laxatives. Because Nature Calm tends to be a little bit more of; it’s great occasionally but a lot of times I find clients rely on it for them to be able to poop. So that’s when I’m like; ok, there’s something else going on. If we’re not doing it without this kind of magnesium, we need to look a little deeper into the picture of digestion.

But those are kind of the standards. Then I go to fish oil or some sort of omega-3. Unless you do a lot of grass-fed beef or wild caught fish, then you might be ok. But I do think adding that in occasionally throughout the week. Not necessarily every single day. But I notice if I have dryer skin, I’m like; oh I haven’t taken my fish oil in a few days. So I take the fish oil, and that’s an instant cure. For people that get sunburned really easily, even if they feel like it’s just the way they’re supposed to be, take a fish oil and see if your sunburn goes away. because 9 times out of 10 it’s actually an omega-3 fatty acid issue, not necessarily a sun protection issue. So that’s kind of fun.

Then I get into; ok for me personally, what do I need to make my body happy. I know I have methylation issues. Which just means that my genetics don’t create the right tools for detoxification that goes into liver. And a lot of us have this issue. It’s about 40 to 50% of the population. Maybe more, but right now that’s what they say. So for me, to make sure my body is really healthy, I take glutathione support. Glutathione is just a really good way to kind of clear the system and give antioxidants to brain and healing.

I love turmeric, anti-inflammatory. So people that, similar to collagen. People with chronic pain. But with turmeric specifically, for the brain. I do it more for brain than anything. Not necessarily aches and pains, but for any sort of anxiety or dark lows that I might have. Turmeric is just incredible.

And then I’m obsessed with mushrooms. So I play around with cordyceps and reishi. Lion’s mane is my favorite right now. And then I try to just; based on what my body needs. Which I’ve learned over the last couple of years. Sometimes I need digestive support, because I don’t know what I’m about to eat. I’m at a restaurant, and I need to make sure I have the tools I need to break it down. Sometimes I need a little extra zinc, because my skin is going to break out, or I feel like my immune system is kind of off.

I guess it’s kind of the big over picture. I do love supplements. I love me some supplements. 10 pounds of my bag when I travel is supplements, because I like to…

Juli Bauer: Oh my god.

Emily Schromm: {laughs} I know. It’s ridiculous. But I feel like if I don’t; it’s so not necessarily for the average person. But for me, when I travel as much as I do. If I don’t; it’s kind of like your beauty care routine.

Juli Bauer: Yeah.

Emily Schromm: It’s the same consistency. If those are in line, I don’t come home feeling wrecked or my skin is breaking out or just depleted. So I’m a little bit crazy, but also do know there are some baseline supplements that I think everyone should have.

And the last one, I think especially women, B vitamins. Some sort of really good B vitamin complex. Preferably from food, because that’s the best that our body knows. We can eat tons of vegetables and fruit, but the way that fruits and vegetables are raised and the way that our soil is depleted, it’ really hard to get the nutrients we need from them. So most of us are B12 deficient. In general, overall B deficient. So I think that would be a good one for most clients.

Juli Bauer: Oh my gosh.

Emily Schromm: Was that a lot?

Juli Bauer: You’re like; oh that was only like 10, of the 400 I’m taking daily. {laughs}

Emily Schromm: I’m going to send you a picture. {laughing}

Juli Bauer: That’s insane. I have this; I got really sick in high school. I remember taking ibuprofen, my throat was so swollen I couldn’t even swallow. So taking a little ibuprofen was the scariest thing, and I would cry leading up to it because it was so painful. So now I hate taking pills. And I think that’s why I think I don’t really want to take anything. And I’m just fine swallowing a pill. It’s no problem at all. But I think I have this fear of how much pain I was in. And you know when they kind of get stuck and you’re like trying to swallow it down. F*cking. That’s why I think I don’t really take pills.

Emily Schromm: Yeah.

Juli Bauer: And not know where to start. But I love that basics.

Emily Schromm: That an ok overview? I don’t want to overwhelm it.

Juli Bauer: I think it’s amazing. No, I think that’s amazing.

Emily Schromm: Ok.

Juli Bauer: And one more. {laughs}

Emily Schromm: Yeah. Well, just a side note. If you hate pills. It’s incredible what is absorbed through your skin. So transdermal supplementation can be really great for clients. Especially my adrenal clients. I have a lot of phosphatidyl serine’s that are absorbed through the skin that you don’t have to swallow. So a lot of mine; that’s why I love my tea company. They’re for a purpose. It’s different than taking a supplement. But they have all these qualities. So drinking tea. Flower essence tinctures. And also creams can all be ways to get similar nutrients that I talked about.

Juli Bauer: Damn. You have taught me so many new words today. {laughs}

Emily Schromm: {laughing}

Juli Bauer: I have a full new vocabulary. I will be saying words. I won’t know what they mean, but I’ll be saying new words.

Emily Schromm: That is Pitta. You’re a Pitta. {laughs}

Juli Bauer: I’m a Pitta. It’s just me. I’m going to put it in my Instagram profile now.

Emily Schromm: {laughing}

Juli Bauer: OK, let’s get just a couple of more questions, and then I will let you get on with your day so you can crush the rest of this Tuesday. I had a couple of different challenge questions. Number one, “what’s the hardest challenge that she’s ever done on MTV?” And number two, and sorry I’m not naming these people. You guys are great. “Will Emily ever be back for a full season, a non-charity version of the challenge? I miss watching her dominate. Loved having her back for champs versus stars.” So hardest challenge, and if you’ll ever be back. {laughs}

Emily Schromm: Never.

Juli Bauer: {laughing}

Emily Schromm: Oh god, I wish I could explain. I wish I could explain what it’s like. I mean, I love these people. I really do. There are some people I don’t love, but for the most part. As messed up as they are, I really do love everyone.

Juli Bauer: {laughs}

Emily Schromm: I got along with everyone great. I appreciate the people that are putting themselves out there. This is their full-time job, for most of these challengers. And what’s hard for me is to see what I’ve built and what I love and what I’m passionate about, which is herbs and supplements and doshas and try to put all of that on hold to disappear for two months to be around energy that is total sh*t. They’re great people, but when you put all of us in one spot, and we’re all competing for a lot of money. This money is pivotal for these people’s lives. This is their livelihood. It’s a horrible energy to be in. And that in itself is probably why I won’t ever do it again.

Which is hard, because I love competing. When I watch sh*t on TV, if I’m watching it, I’m like; gah that is so cool that they’re doing that. I would love to do that. But then you think about the other stuff. The environment you’re around. Long story short, I know it sounds ridiculous, and everyone thinks I’m crazy. But I don’t think I could put myself in that situation.

The charity ones are great, because I have my laptop, my phone. It’s like my own hotel room. It’s like, small spin offs instead of two months of being in a foreign country.

The craziest challenge I ever did. I don’t know why I’m thinking about. There were some weird ones. {laughs} I’m not that great.

Juli Bauer: Aren’t’ they all physical challenges?

Emily Schromm: Yeah, there’s a couple. The ones that I’m the worst at are the trivia ones, because then they’ll drop pop star knowledge on me and I just don’t know anything about anybody. And I think one of the questions was; who is the baseball and golf player that made it professional. Would you know that answer?

Juli Bauer: No. No.

Emily Schromm: It was Michael Jordan. And everyone thought I was crazy that I didn’t know that. I’m like; how am I supposed to know that? I don’t watch sports.

Juli Bauer: No.

Emily Schromm: I watch CrossFit. {laughs}

Juli Bauer: Yeah, I’m surprised I even know Michael Jordan’s name in the first place. {laughs}

Emily Schromm: I wish I knew more about it, but I just don’t have time for it.

Juli Bauer: No.

Emily Schromm: So, those questions I’m horrible at. So those are actually the hardest ones, because if they’re physical then I freaking love them. Just some of my favorites we were suspended 40 feet above water and we had to jump from platform to platform, and the platforms got smaller and wider. There was one where one partner is suspended 10 feet away from you and you had to run and jump and latch onto them.

Juli Bauer: Oh my god. {laughs}

Emily Schromm: There was ones where you have to hold; in America Ninja Warrior, they did this log where you kind of straddle the log and it spins really fast. And it drops in water. And you have to sprint. So I think it’s inverse for me. The harder ones are the better ones, because I’m more likely to succeed in them. Because I just love heights over water. I love all of that. But the trivia ones I’m horrible at. I can’t do trivia. So those are always probably the toughest ones.

Juli Bauer: I love that video you posted on video on Instagram the other day of having to jump onto that pole; like suspended pole where you’re like flying. And it flops right down into the water.

Emily Schromm: Yeah, it did nothing.

Juli Bauer: Nothing.

Emily Schromm: Nothing! And it sucks. It’s kind of like CrossFit. You have one chance when you compete to do it. And you might see the workouts in advance and be able to try them, but it’s truly nobody has done this, touched it, tried it before except for the stunt man. And even the stunt man is like; well, we’ll see how this goes. And so afterwards, I was like; how did you get up that? He was like, oh it took us about 20 times, but you have to do…

Juli Bauer: Oh my god!

Emily Schromm: But we have one time! You have one shot to make it count. So that’s the frustrating piece. You want to do so well, but you always do better the second time. But you never have a chance for that second time. So it’s fun. And I do miss them.

Juli Bauer: Now I want to watch the Real World and watch you on the challenges, just knowing you as a person and just seeing you on TV. I think that would be so fun. Because I just never watched; I watched kind of pieces of Real World, but I never watched any of the challenges. And that would be so fun now. Knowing what you’re like in person.

Emily Schromm: This is coming out, I guess Saturday. So this week was the final episode. So Tuesday night was the final episode of Champs versus Stars. So I’m about to do the final, because it’s Tuesday today.

Juli Bauer: Are you watching them on these ones?

Emily Schromm: These are easier to watch. Because my mom also watches them, and her commentary that she texts me throughout the show is hilarious. So it’s almost like it’s worth it. And there’s no drama. They don’t show any of the drama, actually. I actually got in fights with people on this one. Because I’m not a fighter. And there are people that I really didn’t like. I don’t know if you watch the Bachelorette.

Juli Bauer: Oh, f*ck yeah I do. That’s the only reality show I watch.

Emily Schromm: You know who Josh is?

Juli Bauer: Yes. The worst.

Emily Schromm: So he was on the show. The worst.

Juli Bauer: Eww! Oh my god, he’s the worst. He is the worst. He’s so gross!

Emily Schromm: I know.

Juli Bauer: He seems like such a woman hater. And just misogynist. Oh, he’s gross.

Emily Schromm: Yes. And I sensed it as soon as I met him. I’m never somebody that judges people quickly, but I pick up energy fast. And I just was like; what is this energy? It was just repelling. He just kept trying to push my buttons. And it was so bizarre. He’s just not a; there’s something f-ed up in his head. For sure.

Juli Bauer: He’s been on so many shows.

Emily Schromm: I know!

Juli Bauer: It’s crazy.

Emily Schromm: He’s trying to redeem himself because of what happened in the book.

Juli Bauer: But he just can’t because he’s just gross.

Emily Schromm: He just needs to stop. So there were definitely some issues with him and I. But they didn’t even show, which was great. Because it was all about the charity, and I was so happy about it. Which makes it less entertaining, I’m sure, for the population. But for me, I was like; I’m down with that. Because it really was about the reason we were there for the charities that we picked.

Juli Bauer: Have you had anything that was shown on TV that you regret? You’re like, f*ck I wish I wasn’t drunk. Or I wish I wouldn’t have said that. Or anything that you’ve regretted?

Emily Schromm: Oh god, of course. {laughs}

Juli Bauer: I just did Instagram stories while incredibly intoxicated in Mexico, and I had to deleted many of them. I was like; ok, Juli. You’re a 30-year-old woman. Get your f*cking sh*t together! So that made me think of it. I’m like; I wonder if she’s done anything. Like, 19 and growing up through that.

Emily Schromm: Oh yeah. I definitely did. Especially Real World DC because I really gave zero shits. And I went into the show knowing I would be always myself. I would live my life as I would live. And I think it’s just always hard because you do it, you live it, then three months later you live it again. So there are definitely moments where I was like; oh, god. Mom, just don’t watch this episode, please.

Juli Bauer: Seriously! OH my gosh, I can’t imagine my parents watching anything. Or listening to my podcast at times.

Emily Schromm: I know, my mom listens to mine, too. And I’m like; sh*t. Mom, ok. Right. I need to keep snowboarding. I’m always censored by my mom. Not like she cares. She’s a great mom. Cause she’s just do whatever.

Juli Bauer: Yeah but she’s still your mom.

Emily Schromm: Yeah. We want to make her proud. I’m with you.

Juli Bauer: Yes! Ok. Let’s do one last question. And I just like this because I think the whole world could be more positive. And this one is from KTNU2. “Ask Emily how she stays so positive? I see mean posts from internet trolls at times on social media, and she seems so graceful and professional despite all of that. How does she do it? #Shakethemhatersoff.” {laughs}

Emily Schromm: {laughs} You know, I think. I mean, it’s been a process. I’m a fighter. I’m so nice. I love everybody, but if someone confronts me, I instantly want to go. I will throw down. Especially in defense of other people that I love and care about. I just went through it enough where I learned that I would never win. Especially when I was 20, and seeing the episodes air, and Twitter trolls kind of come through. I mean, Twitter was brand new, I feel like, at that point.

Juli Bauer: Yeah.

Emily Schromm: And I was like, what is happening? How does this person feel like they can say that about me? So I would try to respond, and then get defensive. And then ultimately all I was doing was hurting myself. Because I was trying to change their perspective of me, and it wasn’t going to be changed. I mean, they either want attention, or they are looking to bring themselves up by putting others down. So, me partaking in that always made it worse. So went through a phase of blocking everybody. If anybody was negative, I just didn’t want anything to do with them. I’m such a sensitive soul. I really do take everything to heart. So it was hard for me.

I think it’s so easy to get into this; brush it off, nothing matters. When everything does matter. Or, I’m so sensitive I’m taking everything in. So I’ve tried to find that balance. Because if I brush it off and pretend it doesn’t matter then I’m just putting walls up in myself and not being who I should be. Because I’m not allowing myself to feel things. And I think Brene Brown talks about that a lot. The more you don’t allow yourself to feel the hurt, the less you allow yourself to be who you are.

So what I do now is I just try to make it where they can’t win. So if they argue about keto, or high fat diets, or CrossFit. Which, kipping pullups are the worst, if you ever see a video of kipping pullups. People go crazy.

Juli Bauer: Yeah.

Emily Schromm: I just try to prove them wrong in a very diplomatic way. You know. I appreciate you saying that, but I haven’t ever seen studies. Or actually here’s another video of me doing strict pullups with 70 pounds. So you have no way to argue. And that usually; that’s just the best way to keep your head above water, not stoop to their level. And if it’s getting into this place of; you just have to combat and beat them, then just walk away from it. Because you’re never going to win. Because they love it. They feed off of that.

Juli Bauer: Totally. Totally. People love to fight. People love to have opinions and love to fight.

Emily Schromm: And just being noticed. A lot of times these people that are saying those things, they’re just lost puppies. And in their own f*cked up way are looking for connection. And for whatever reason, this is the way they’re doing it. So I try to just see it from that perspective, and not take it to heart as much as I used to.

Juli Bauer: Yeah. I’m the same way. Well, you’re amazing Emily. Thank you so much for taking the time out of your day to be on this. I know you have such a busy schedule. So I’m so glad we got to hop on Skype.

Emily Schromm: This is priority. I feel so honored.

Juli Bauer: Aww! We have to actually get together and have lunch. We should go to Urban Farmer together.

Emily Schromm: Oh my gosh, you’re going to love it. I mean, I love this bartender, Noah, so much that I even brought him wine for Christmas with a Christmas card. They’re great. It’s great food. Great steaks. I mean, I’m sure you eat steak. I’m assuming so, but yes.

Juli Bauer: Yes.

Emily Schromm: Ok good. {laughs}

Juli Bauer: Oh my gosh. Ok, we’ll have to go there. Well, tell everybody where they can find you. Where they can find EmPack. Where they can listen to your podcast. Tell them everything.

Emily Schromm: I will. Ok so my podcast is Meathead Hippie. Which, Juli will be on soon. {laughs}

Juli Bauer: Yes! I can’t wait.

Emily Schromm: So I’ll make sure you get on soon. {laughs} I am on Emily Schromm for my Instagram. My challenge is EmFit Challenge. If you just want to follow a food account, it’s more of my food and kind of my fitness stuff. But you can find all of that on EmilySchromm.com. My EmPack is linked through EmilySchromm.com. but it’s theEmPack.com. and then my tea company is HerbalElement.com. if you want to try some herbal coffee or some medicinal teas. It’s a fun place to kind of dig around and learn some stuff in.

Juli Bauer: Sweet. I’ll link those all in the show notes so people can easily find that and click to it. Thank you so much for being on! You’re just the cutest. And your voice is very soothing, and I love listening to you. And seriously, I have learned so much from this podcast already, and I may be writing you to ask about supplements. But I’ll have to listen to this podcast again and write them down. But I may have questions for you. Because you have all the answers, obviously.

Emily Schromm: I do. I am full of random information. So let me know what you need help with.

Juli Bauer: Not pop culture trivia, but supplement trivia.

Emily Schromm: {laughs} Only Pitta relevant.

Juli Bauer: Only Pitta. What do you think Josh is on the; what is he. If we’re Pitta’s. What is he?

Emily Schromm: He’s a sociopath.

Juli Bauer: {laughing}

Emily Schromm: {laughs}

Juli Bauer: He’s a socio-pitta.

Emily Schromm: {laughing} Yes. That’s it.

Juli Bauer: Oh, I’m so glad you tied in the Bachelor with this podcast. Because I love the Bachelor. And it’s the only reality show that I watch. {laughs} So that’s amazing. That’s absolutely amazing.

Emily Schromm: Well we’re on the same page about Josh.

Juli Bauer: Yes, 100%.

Emily Schromm: That’s great.

Juli Bauer: Well thank you so much for being on the podcast. You’re amazing. I can’t wait to see what your next adventure is. Because it is so fun to follow.

Emily Schromm: Thanks Juli.

Juli Bauer: And I will talk to you soon. Everybody, don’t forget to rate, review, subscribe. I’m going to stop the podcast, you stay on the line here Emily. I will talk to you guys next week. Bye.

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Oh, Hi! I’m Juli.

I’m a food hoarder. And a really bad dancer. If you don’t know me well, you will probably not understand my humor. Therefore, I apologize ahead of time. Thanks for listening to my ramblings of my ever-changing life and trusting my kitchen mishaps. Your trust in me is appreciated.

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